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ETI Project 447 Audio Phaser

9/29/2014

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EDIT 2014-10-20
I added a soundclip. Notes: for this clip I had increased the 15K resistor (to the right of IC4) to 33K to lower the effect depth (I found it too wobbly), and I increased the 33K resistor to 47K to keep unity gain. This is as fast as this phaser goes, so it would probably be a good idea to mod the LFO secion aswell to increase the range. The wave-shape could also be better... but this is how it is without too much changes to the original schematic.

DIY phaser from ETI.
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When I first built it up it was super noisy, so I modded it to reduce the voltage divider before the first phasing stage and I also reduced the makeup gain of the last transistor. Now it's totally usable, however a drawback of the mod is that there can be some minor distortion if you are using hot humbuckers.

It's important to set the Bias trimmer just right. It has a small area where phasing occurs and it controls the waveshape of the sweep aswell.

There are a couple of other things to notice.
When I drew up the layout I mistook the Bias pot for a Depth pot.. I don't wanna add the trimmer to the board, because it would mean even more cuts, links and possible a larger board (now it fits perfectly in a 1590BB). so, you will have to put the Bias trimmer on a separate small piece of vero.

The last thing is that it needs a 100K resistor from the output to ground, otherwise it will pop when switching to bypass (the original didn't have true bypass). It is easily soldered directly to the 3PDT switch.
7 Comments
agung setiadi zainal abidin
10/12/2014 04:39:32 pm

Hy Mr fredirik
I was build this phaser but only get clean signal, and bias trimpot cant find the correct spot. I used some replacement part, 2n5458 instead of 2n5485, single trimpot instead of multiturn trimmer, and tl072 instead of tl 062
Pls help me

Thanks

agung

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agung setiafi zainal abidin ashole
10/12/2014 04:42:32 pm

my soldering , jumper position, and component placement is OK
but this trouble make me sick

can you help me please, and thanks for your layout

BR

agung

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Fredrik Lyxzén link
10/12/2014 09:39:50 pm

Hi Agung. I'm sorry to head that you have trouble with you build.

You should check if the LFO (IC5, which should be upside down) is working. If you connect a LED anode from IC pin 7, cathode to ground via a 4.7 resistor, the LED should blink no matter how the bias is set. You could also check this with a multimeter. Pin 7 is the IC pin that connects to the 1M resistor. Also, a multiturn trimmer is important with this build, since the modulation only works with the trimmer set just right and if you also want to be able to find the sweetspot for the wave-shape it's very difficult to do that with a regular trimpot. The replacement parts you used otherwise should be ok. Good luck and let me know how it goes
Cheers / Fredrik

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agung setiadi zainal abidin
10/22/2014 07:39:01 pm

Hy
OK Done,,Its work now after change the opamp to tl062 . Any opamp not work in this phaser (i try tl072, jrc4558,NE5532 and not working). By the way, sound quality is OK, but phaser speed too slow..

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Fredrik Lyxzén link
10/22/2014 08:36:47 pm

I'm glad you got it working! :) Strange that other opamps didn't work. I agree that the speed is too slow. You could try to reduce to 100K resistor that goes to Speed 3 to increase the speed. Try a 10K resistor insted, it should make a big difference. Cheers / Fredrik

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hi-fi link
3/9/2015 04:25:50 pm

This is as fast as this phaser goes, so it would probably be a good idea to mod the LFO secion aswell to increase the range. The wave-shape could also be better... but this is how it is.

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Fredrik Lyxzén link
3/10/2015 09:25:55 am

Hi-fi, what do you mean by this quite? I didn't design this phaser, so i'm just stating that the original is this way and the vero follows the schematic except for the mod to reduce distortion as mentioned. As I suggested in a earlier comment, it would be possible to mod the LFO by reducing the 100K resistor to increase the rate. :) My own parasite phaser sounds better imho, so I recommend building that one insted. There's a vero layout for it in the original designs section. Cheers / Fredrik

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